Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

05/15/2021 10:00 AM House FINANCE

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10:24:56 AM Start
10:25:39 AM HB111
11:13:08 AM Adjourn
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+ HB 111 DENTAL HYGIENIST ADVANCED PRAC PERMIT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       May 15, 2021                                                                                             
                        10:24 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:24:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 10:24 a.m.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Sponsor; Pakak Sophie                                                                             
Boerner, Staff, Representative Ivy Spohnholz.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Royann  Royer, Certified  Dental Assistant,  Anchorage; Sara                                                                    
Chambers, Director,  Division of Corporations,  Business and                                                                    
Professional  Licensing, Department  of Commerce,  Community                                                                    
and  Economic Development;  Greg Johnson,  Member, Board  of                                                                    
Dental Examiners, Fairbanks.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 111    DENTAL HYGIENIST ADVANCED PRAC PERMIT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          HB 111 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 111                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to the  practice of  dental hygiene;                                                                    
     relating  to  advanced   practice  permits  for  dental                                                                    
     hygienists; relating to  dental assistants; prohibiting                                                                    
     unfair  discrimination  under  group  health  insurance                                                                    
     against  a  dental  hygienist  who  holds  an  advanced                                                                    
     practice  permit; relating  to  medical assistance  for                                                                    
     dental   hygiene  services;   and   providing  for   an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:25:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE IVY SPOHNHOLZ, SPONSOR, introduced the bill                                                                      
with a prepared statement as follows:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill 111  creates  an  Advanced Practice  Permit                                                                    
     which   will   allow   experienced,   licensed   dental                                                                    
     hygienists to provide preventative  oral health care to                                                                    
     underserved populations at  senior centers, health care                                                                    
     facilities, day  cares, and  schools, and  for Alaskans                                                                    
     who are eligible for  public assistance, are homebound,                                                                    
     or who live in underserved rural communities.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • Oral health care plays a crucial role in the                                                                        
          overall health and well-being of Alaskans. Poor                                                                       
          oral health care contributes to poor overall                                                                          
          health.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • This is problem is worst amongst our state's most                                                                   
          vulnerable populations:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
             • Many low income individuals and families in                                                                    
                Alaska don't regularly seek oral healthcare                                                                     
                due to cost, apprehension of dental work,                                                                       
                access, and trouble finding a provider.                                                                         
             • Bad oral health is linked to cardiovascular                                                                    
                disease, Alzheimer's, osteoporosis, as well                                                                     
                as poor nutrition and other serious health                                                                      
                issues.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             • So, increasing access to preventative dental                                                                   
                healthcare will save and improve Alaskan's                                                                      
                health.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • HB 111 aims to increase access to oral healthcare                                                                   
          to    underserved     populations,    specifically                                                                    
          children,    seniors,    and   individuals    with                                                                    
          disabilities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • By expanding access, HB 111 creates an advanced                                                                     
          practice permit for dental hygienists.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • Currently, dental hygienists can practice in a                                                                      
          dentist's practice  or practice semi-independently                                                                    
          if  they have  a  collaborative  agreement with  a                                                                    
          dentistsimilar to what Physicians Assistants do.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     HB 111  creates an Advanced Practice  Permit which will                                                                    
     allow  dental   hygienists  to  care   for  underserved                                                                    
     populations at senior  centers, health care facilities,                                                                    
     day  cares,  and  schools, and  for  Alaskans  who  are                                                                    
     eligible for  public assistance, are homebound,  or who                                                                    
     live  in an  underserved  community. If  they have  the                                                                    
     following:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          1. minimum  of 4,000 hours of  clinical experience                                                                    
          and                                                                                                                   
          2.  are approved  by the  Alaska  Board of  Dental                                                                    
          Examiners.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • The bill lays out the specific services allowed                                                                     
          under  the  permit  and the  specific  populations                                                                    
          that  a  licensed  dental  hygienist  can  provide                                                                    
          services  to without  the supervision  or physical                                                                    
          presence  of a  licensed  dentist.  This list  has                                                                    
          been  developed in  consultation  with the  Alaska                                                                    
          Dental  Society, Board  of  Dental Examiners,  and                                                                    
          Alaska     Dental      Hygienists     Association.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • The Advanced Practice Permit-holder will have to                                                                    
          maintain malpractice insurance,  provide a written                                                                    
          notice of  their service  limitations, and  make a                                                                    
          referral to  a licensed dentist nearby  if further                                                                    
        dental treatment is needed (Section 2(d)).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • This will allow dental hygienists to practice to                                                                    
          the  full scope  of  their training,  credentials,                                                                    
          and professional experience.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • Alaska won't be the first state to make these                                                                       
          changes.  Dental hygienists  are able  to practice                                                                    
          under advance practice  permits or similar permits                                                                    
          in   six  other   states  (Colorado,   Washington,                                                                    
          Montana, Maine,  Connecticut, and  California) and                                                                    
          40  other states  are  considered "direct  access"                                                                    
          states,   meaning  that   dental  hygienists   can                                                                    
          initiate treatment based on  their assessment of a                                                                    
          patient's  needs  without   the  authorization  or                                                                    
          presence          of           a          dentist.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • Lastly, I'll note that we have already made                                                                         
          important   changes   to    this   bill   at   the                                                                    
          recommendation  of the  Board of  Dental Examiners                                                                    
         and the Alaska Dental Society, including:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
             • requiring permit-holders to maintain patient                                                                   
               records for at least 7 years,                                                                                    
             • making sure that the Board of Dental                                                                           
                Examiners has separately certified a dental                                                                     
                hygienist to administer local anesthesia,                                                                       
                and                                                                                                             
             • empowering the Department of Health and                                                                        
                Social Services to make regulations related                                                                     
                to the bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:28:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Spohnholz  listed individuals  available  to                                                                    
testify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  asked  how many  advanced  hygiene                                                                    
practice permits  were expected to  be issued at  the start.                                                                    
Representative Spohnholz answered  that there were currently                                                                    
659 registered  dental hygienists  in the state  and roughly                                                                    
10  percent   of  dental  hygienists  in   Alaska  would  be                                                                    
eligible. She  reiterated that  the candidates  needed 4,000                                                                    
hours of  experience and  would have to  be approved  by the                                                                    
Board  of Dental  Examiners.  Therefore,  roughly 65  dental                                                                    
hygienists would be eligible.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool asked  for verification  that the  bill                                                                    
did  not expand  the scope  of practice  and that  hygienist                                                                    
were   currently   allowed   to   give   local   anesthesia.                                                                    
Representative   Spohnholz   answered   affirmatively.   She                                                                    
elaborated  that hygienist  were currently  allowed to  give                                                                    
local anesthesia on a limited  basis. She determined that if                                                                    
the bill  did expand the  scope of practice,  dentists would                                                                    
oppose the  legislation. She related  that dentists  were in                                                                    
full support of the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:31:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  spoke  to the  issuance  of  an  advanced                                                                    
practice  permit and  wondered  whether it  would allow  the                                                                    
hygienist  to  practice  independently  and  open  a  clinic                                                                    
anywhere,  if  they felt  the  market  would be  supportive.                                                                    
Representative  Spohnholz answered  that the  intent of  the                                                                    
bill  was to  increase access  to preventative  dental care,                                                                    
not  to increase  competition with  dentists. She  furthered                                                                    
that the intent  of the bill was that  hygienists would meet                                                                    
the needs of underserved populations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PAKAK SOPHIE  BOERNER, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  IVY SPOHNHOLZ,                                                                    
interjected and directed members  attention to a document in                                                                    
the  members   files   titled   Frequently  Asked  Questions                                                                    
(FAQs)   (copy on  file).  She noted  that  in the  document                                                                    
Vice-Chair Ortizs  question was  addressed. She relayed that                                                                    
in other states the  advanced practitioners worked part-time                                                                    
in  dental shortage  areas  as well  as  continuing to  work                                                                    
part-time  in traditional  private or  public health  dental                                                                    
offices.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:33:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   asked  if  a   dental  hygienist                                                                    
sometimes  worked less  than 40  hours per  week due  to the                                                                    
strenuous work.  He wondered  whether the  advanced practice                                                                    
work  would   be  supplemental  in   nature.  Representative                                                                    
Spohnholz deferred the answer.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ROYANN  ROYER, CERTIFIED  DENTAL  ASSISTANT, ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference), shared  that she worked  in the field  as a                                                                    
practitioner and  educator for  35 years. She  answered that                                                                    
she expected most  people to engage in  the advanced license                                                                    
as a  primary practice. She  thought that others may  do the                                                                    
work as an extra  job. Representative Josephson wondered how                                                                    
the  practitioner's  typical  day would  change.  Ms.  Royer                                                                    
answered that  the individuals  would be  doing the  work in                                                                    
underserved  areas  without  a   dentist  as  their  primary                                                                    
practice and  it may be supplemental  or not. Representative                                                                    
Josephson asked for verification  that the individuals would                                                                    
remain connected  to a dental  practice. Ms.  Royer answered                                                                    
that  the  practitioner would  not  necessarily  have to  be                                                                    
associated with a specific private practice.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Spohnholz  clarified  that  the  bill  would                                                                    
create  a new  standard of  licensure for  dental hygienists                                                                    
that would  allow them to  practice independently  without a                                                                    
dentists  supervision  to practice  in a very  narrow scope,                                                                    
in  communities without  access to  dental care  like senior                                                                    
centers and  nursing homes. She furthered  that the advanced                                                                    
practitioner could  still practice  under a dentist,  but it                                                                    
was anticipated that it would  become a specialty of certain                                                                    
practitioners.   She  reminded   the   committee  that   the                                                                    
licensing  process was  very  rigorous.  She concluded  that                                                                    
there would be a very high  bar set for the licensee and the                                                                    
individuals  would   be  providing   services  to   a  small                                                                    
population  of  underserved individuals.  She  characterized                                                                    
the service as niche.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:38:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Royer  interjected that currently she  was working under                                                                    
a Collaborative Practice Agreement  that allowed a hygienist                                                                    
to  work independently  under the  general supervision  of a                                                                    
dentist.  She currently  worked  at Prestige  Rehabilitation                                                                    
Center  Long-Term Care,  and the  Alaska Pioneer  Homes. She                                                                    
furthered that  the bill would  allow an  advanced hygienist                                                                    
to work  independently and refer  a patient to a  dentist in                                                                    
the area.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Boerner  provided a  PowerPoint presentation  titled "HB
111:  Dental  Hygiene  Advanced Practice  Permit"  (copy  on                                                                    
file).  She  began  with  slide  2 titled   Why  is  HB  111                                                                    
Important?  She  relayed  that  according  to  the  American                                                                    
Dental  Association Health  Policy  Institute 2015  document                                                                    
titled  "Oral  Health  and Well-Being  in  the  Alaska,   62                                                                    
percent of Alaskan  elementary students have a  high rate of                                                                    
tooth  decay rate.  In addition,  43  percent of  low-income                                                                    
Alaskans  have difficulty  biting and  chewing. Pain  is the                                                                    
top  oral health  problem for  young  adults and  low-income                                                                    
adults  in  America.  Low-income families  in  Alaska  don't                                                                    
regularly  seek oral  health care  due to  cost, access,  or                                                                    
trouble finding a provider.                                                                                                     
10:40:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Boerner moved to slide 3 titled titled "Why is HB 111                                                                       
Important?                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Dental diseases  disproportionately affect  our state's                                                                    
     most vulnerable people.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Dental hygienists  are the front line  for preventative                                                                    
     dental  care  and  education about  the  critical  link                                                                    
     between oral health and overall, wellbeing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     HB  111  increases  access  to  oral  health  care  for                                                                    
     underserved populations:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ? Children                                                                                                                 
     ? Seniors                                                                                                                  
     ? Alaskans with disabilities                                                                                               
     ? Alaskans in correctional facilities                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:41:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Boerner reviewed the sectional analysis of the bill in                                                                      
lieu of slide 4 (copy on file):                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                                  
     Ability of practice of dental hygienists.                                                                                  
     (e)  Amends AS  08.32.110. to  allow a  licensed dental                                                                    
     hygienist who holds an  advanced practice permit issued                                                                    
     by the board to perform duties allowed by the permit.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2                                                                                                                  
     Advanced practice permits.                                                                                                 
     Adds  a new  section under  AS 08.32.125.  creating the                                                                    
     advanced practice permit  and providing requirements as                                                                    
     follows:                                                                                                                   
     (a)  The  Board  of  Dental   Examiners  may  issue  an                                                                    
     advanced   practice  permit   to   a  licensed   dental                                                                    
     hygienist  with a  minimum  4,000  documented hours  of                                                                    
     clinical experience. This  subsection lists what duties                                                                    
     fall  under  advanced  practice permits:  general  oral                                                                    
     health   &   cleaning,   providing   treatment   plans,                                                                    
     screenings,  taking radiographs,  and/or delegating  to                                                                    
     dental assistants.                                                                                                         
     (b)  A licensed  dental hygienist  holding an  advanced                                                                    
     practice permit  may provide services to  a patient who                                                                    
     is  not able  to  receive dental  treatment because  of                                                                    
     age,  infirmity, or  disability. The  patient may  be a                                                                    
     resident  of   a  senior  center,   residential  health                                                                    
     facility,  or held  in a  local correctional  facility.                                                                    
     The patient  may also be  enrolled in  certain schools,                                                                    
     receiving benefits under  the Special Supplemental Food                                                                    
     Program (WIC), homebound, or a  resident of a community                                                                    
    that has a shortage of dental health professionals.                                                                         
     (c)  A licensed  dental hygienist  holding an  advanced                                                                    
     practice permit  can provide appropriate services  to a                                                                    
     patient  without   the  presence,   authorization,  and                                                                    
     supervision  of  a  licensed  dentist  and  without  an                                                                    
     examination from a licensed dentist.                                                                                       
     (d)  Licensed   dental  hygienists  with   an  advanced                                                                    
     practice permits  must maintain  professional liability                                                                    
     insurance. They must also give  the patient, parent, or                                                                    
     legal  guardian  written   notice  that  the  treatment                                                                    
     provided  will  be  limited to  those  allowed  by  the                                                                    
     permit, a  written recommendation  that the  patient be                                                                    
     examined by  a licensed dentist for  comprehensive oral                                                                    
     care,  and  assistance in  receiving  a  referral to  a                                                                    
     licensed dentist for further oral treatment.                                                                               
     (e)  An advanced  practice permit  is  valid until  the                                                                    
     license  of the  dental hygienist  expires. A  licensed                                                                    
     dental  hygienist  can  renew their  advanced  practice                                                                    
     permit at the same time they renew their license.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3                                                                                                                  
     Grounds  for discipline,  suspension, or  revocation of                                                                    
     license.                                                                                                                   
     Amends  AS  08.32.160  to   exempt  a  licensed  dental                                                                    
     hygienist  as  permitted  under  an  advanced  practice                                                                    
     permit  from  supervision   requirements  for  clinical                                                                    
     procedures.  Licenses  may  be   revoked  if  a  dental                                                                    
     hygienist  allows  a  dental  assistant  to  perform  a                                                                    
     prohibited  procedure, or  if  the licensee  falsified,                                                                    
     destroyed, or failed to maintain  a patient or facility                                                                    
     record for the last seven years.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4                                                                                                                  
     Allows a  dental hygienist holding an  advance practice                                                                    
     permit   to  delegate   to  a   dental  assistant   the                                                                    
     exposure/development  of  radiographs, the  application                                                                    
     of preventative  agents, and  other tasks  as specified                                                                    
     by the board in regulations.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5                                                                                                                  
     Prohibits   insurance  providers   from  discriminating                                                                    
     against  dental  hygienists holding  advanced  practice                                                                    
     permits.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6                                                                                                                  
     This  section is  amended to  include dental  hygienist                                                                    
     services in the optional services provided by the                                                                          
     Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7                                                                                                                  
     Allows  the  Department  of  Commerce,  Community,  and                                                                    
     Economic  Development,  the  Department of  Health  and                                                                    
     Social Services,  and the Board of  Dental Examiners to                                                                    
     adopt  regulations necessary  to implement  the changes                                                                    
     made in this bill. The  regulations may not take effect                                                                    
     before the effective date of this bill.                                                                                    
     Section 8                                                                                                                  
     Section 7 on regulations takes effective immediately.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9                                                                                                                  
     Effective date for sections 1-6 is July 1, 2022.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:45:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Boerner turned to slide 5 that listed the Dental Health                                                                     
Professional Shortage Areas (DHPSA)  in Alaska and concluded                                                                    
her presentation. She noted that  the shortage areas were in                                                                    
geographic DHPSAs, Alaskan  Native Tribal populations, state                                                                    
provided  situations such  as  correctional facilities,  and                                                                    
federally qualified health centers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Spohnholz   suggested  that   the   invited                                                                    
testifiers be heard.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Royer   provided   further  invited   testimony.   She                                                                    
emphasized that  she worked  under a  Collaborative Practice                                                                    
Agreement, which she currently  practiced under at two long-                                                                    
term care facilities. She  began the non-profit organization                                                                    
5 years ago  and hoped to expand beyond  the two facilities.                                                                    
The agreement allowed a  hygienist to practice independently                                                                    
under the general supervision of  a dentist. The legislation                                                                    
would expand  access to dental  care by  allowing hygienists                                                                    
to work independently  to provide services, be  able to bill                                                                    
for services provided,  and refer to a  dentist when needed.                                                                    
The  collaborative practice  had  improved  access to  care.                                                                    
However,  many hygienists  who want  to work  in underserved                                                                    
areas   cannot  find   a  dentist   who  will   work  in   a                                                                    
collaborative   agreement.  She   reported  that   a  dental                                                                    
hygienist  in Fairbanks  initiated  the  legislation due  to                                                                    
that scenario. She  believed that new ways  of bringing oral                                                                    
health care  to underserved populations were  needed and was                                                                    
the  reason  dental  practitioners  supported  HB  111.  The                                                                    
legislation   would   foster   an  opportunity   to   revise                                                                    
efficiency   and   cost-saving   methods   to   assist   the                                                                    
underserved populations.  She emphasized that  routine exams                                                                    
and  cleanings  were less  expensive  than  waiting for  the                                                                    
patient  to  notice  problems   or  experience  pain  before                                                                    
seeking  out  a  dentist.  A hygienist  could  assess  minor                                                                    
issues  and refer  the patient  to the  dentist prior  to it                                                                    
turning into a  larger more costly problem.  She pointed out                                                                    
the  many  correlations   recognized  between  oral  health,                                                                    
overall health,  and systemic conditions such  as pneumonia,                                                                    
heart disease, and diabetes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:48:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz appreciated the intent  of the bill. He was                                                                    
unclear whether  someone who received the  advanced practice                                                                    
permit was responsible for deciding  where they could open a                                                                    
clinic to offer services or  were limited to the DHPSAs. Ms.                                                                    
Royer  replied that  the bill  specified  that the  practice                                                                    
could only be  in underserved areas and  the hygienist could                                                                    
decide which underserved  area she would prefer  to work in.                                                                    
She  ascertained that  it would  likely  be in  consultation                                                                    
with a  dentist working  in the  underserved area  and would                                                                    
still work  collaboratively with  the dentists in  the area.                                                                    
Vice-Chair   Ortiz   asked   for  clarification   that   the                                                                    
underserved areas  were clearly defined. Ms.  Royer answered                                                                    
in the affirmative.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Spohnholz directed attention  to the areas in                                                                    
the  bill  where  the permitted  hygienist  could  practice;                                                                    
Section 2,  subsection (b) on  page 3, line 1.  She stressed                                                                    
that the  bill clearly  lists the  underserved areas  of the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:51:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool noted that Ms.  Royer had stated she had                                                                    
a   collaborative  agreement   allowing  her   to  work   in                                                                    
underserved areas. He asked if  her job would change much if                                                                    
she received  the advanced licensure. Ms.  Royer stated that                                                                    
she   personally  would   not  change   licensure  and   her                                                                    
collaborative  agreement was  working well.  She viewed  the                                                                    
collaborative agreement,  and the advanced  practice permits                                                                    
separately.   She   would   continue   working   under   the                                                                    
collaborative  agreement  with  a dentist.  She  provided  a                                                                    
scenario where  dentists in  the area did  not want  to work                                                                    
with  a  collaborative   agreement;  the  advanced  practice                                                                    
permits  would fill  the gap.  Representative Wool  asked if                                                                    
there was  an advantage to a  collaborative agreement versus                                                                    
an  advanced practice  permit. He  asked what  she would  be                                                                    
required  to  do   if  she  chose  to   become  an  advanced                                                                    
practitioner.  Ms. Royer  answered  that she  would need  to                                                                    
fill out an application and appear before the board.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Spohnholz noted  there was  a member  of the                                                                    
Board of Dental examiners on the invited testifier list.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  restated  his  question  regarding  an                                                                    
advantage  to remain  in  a  collaborative agreement  versus                                                                    
holding an advanced permit.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:54:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Royer answered  that it was an advantage to  her to have                                                                    
a collaborative  agreement because she worked  with the same                                                                    
dentists that provided care at  the facilities, she provided                                                                    
care  in.  Representative Wool  asked  if  it was  a  common                                                                    
agreement.   Ms.  Royer   answered  there   had  only   been                                                                    
collaborative  agreements  for about  10  years  and it  was                                                                    
working  well. She  did not  know the  number of  hygienists                                                                    
working under a collaborative agreement.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Spohnholz interjected  that there  were five                                                                    
hygienists in  the state that practiced  under collaborative                                                                    
agreements.  She  asked  to  hear  from  the  Department  of                                                                    
Commerce, Community and Economic Development (DCCED).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SARA CHAMBERS, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF CORPORATIONS, BUSINESS                                                                    
AND   PROFESSIONAL   LICENSING,  DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,                                                                    
COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
agreed  with Representative  Spohnholz.  She responded  that                                                                    
there  were  5  hygienists  working  under  a  collaborative                                                                    
agreement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson thought  the permit  would allow  a                                                                    
dental  hygienist to  practice  independently.  He asked  if                                                                    
there  would  be  an  additional fee  for  the  permit.  Ms.                                                                    
Chambers  replied  in  the affirmative.  The  hygienist  was                                                                    
required  to be  registered as  a hygienist  before applying                                                                    
for the  advanced permit. The certification  would likely be                                                                    
an  endorsement to  a dental  hygiene  license. She  related                                                                    
that  she  worked  with  the board  and  discussed  the  fee                                                                    
setting process.  It was currently  difficult to  assess the                                                                    
amount of an  additional fee since the  number of applicants                                                                    
were unknown.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:57:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  asked if the  advanced practitioner                                                                    
did  anything  out  of  their scope  of  practice  would  it                                                                    
warrant an  investigation. Ms.  Chambers responded  that the                                                                    
advanced  practice  permit would  fall  under  the Board  of                                                                    
Dental  Examiners authority  to review  and revoke  permits.                                                                    
The  permit  would  be  exactly  like  all  other  types  of                                                                    
licenses  issued -  a  fee  would be  paid  to practice  and                                                                    
hopefully they  would practice lawfully.  In the event  of a                                                                    
complaint  or  some  other triggering  event,  investigators                                                                    
would  investigate   an  individual  and  the   board  would                                                                    
ultimately  decide if  a  violation took  place  and how  to                                                                    
remediate  it. She  reminded the  committee that  by statute                                                                    
the  license   had  to  be   self-funding;  if   there  were                                                                    
investigations the  increased fees  would be covered  by all                                                                    
the dental licensees.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  asked about a scenario  where there                                                                    
were  extensive investigations  of advanced  practice permit                                                                    
holders.  He  wondered  whether   all  licensees  under  the                                                                    
licensure  would be  liable for  the investigative  costs or                                                                    
only  the advanced  practice  permit  holders. Ms.  Chambers                                                                    
answered that  she did  not anticipate  many and  likely not                                                                    
any additional  investigations. She elucidated  that statute                                                                    
required  each  license  program  to  pay  for  itself.  The                                                                    
division   considered  investigative   fees   the  same   as                                                                    
administrative fees  therefore, the program was  required to                                                                    
cover  the  costs via  discussions  with  the dental  board.                                                                    
Investigations were  not linked  by license  type so  it was                                                                    
possible all license holders would be liable.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:01:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked to hear from  the additional invited                                                                    
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GREG JOHNSON,  MEMBER, BOARD OF DENTAL  EXAMINERS, FAIRBANKS                                                                    
(via  teleconference), shared  that  he practiced  pediatric                                                                    
dentistry in Alaska since 1987.  He noted that the questions                                                                    
being asked  by the  committee were   spot on.   He reported                                                                    
that  during the  prior legislative  session, the  board had                                                                    
contemplated the introduction of the  bill. The board was in                                                                    
unanimous  support  of  the  advanced  practice  permit.  He                                                                    
elaborated that the advanced  practice and the collaborative                                                                    
agreement were  similar. He estimated  that that  the number                                                                    
of advance  practice permit holders  would be less  than 10.                                                                    
He  indicated  that the  permit  holders  would be  able  to                                                                    
practice independently and  there  would be a  bit more skin                                                                    
in  the  game  in  terms  of  carrying liability  insurance,                                                                    
paying  staff,  and  overhead. The  board  would  watch  the                                                                    
advanced  practitioners very  carefully  over  the next  few                                                                    
years. He was reassured that  there were some guard rails in                                                                    
the  bill. He  suggested that  preventative and  maintenance                                                                    
care  was   essential  for  positive  outcomes.   The  board                                                                    
endorsed the bill because it   put the right people with the                                                                    
right  training  with  the  right  oversight  in  the  right                                                                    
places. He was available for questions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick appreciated the doctor calling in.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:06:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  referenced subsection (b)  on page                                                                    
3  of  the  bill.  He  wondered if  the  practice  would  be                                                                    
Medicaid eligible. Representative  Spohnholz answered in the                                                                    
affirmative and indicated  it was a critical  element of the                                                                    
bill. Representative  Josephson asked whether  patients with                                                                    
private insurance and were not  Medicaid eligible would have                                                                    
the  service  covered.  Representative  Spohnholz  responded                                                                    
that the bill applied only  to underserved areas, if someone                                                                    
was  in the  underserved  population  private insurers  were                                                                    
required to cover  the services. She did not  expect a large                                                                    
utilization  in the  private  insurance  market because  the                                                                    
bill targeted  an underserved population that  was typically                                                                    
in  a  rural  community  and covered  by  tribal  health  or                                                                    
economically underserved  and would be covered  by Medicaid.                                                                    
She did not expect a large amount of insurance pay.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:08:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  thanked Dr. Johnson for  calling in on                                                                    
a Saturday and recognized that  he was recently confirmed by                                                                    
the  legislature  for  his board  appointment.  Mr.  Johnson                                                                    
affirmed that he  was recently named to the  Board of Dental                                                                    
Examiners.                                                                                                                      
Representative Wool  echoed Representative  LeBon's comments                                                                    
to Dr.  Johnson. He  provided a  scenario where  a hygienist                                                                    
was  under collaborative  agreement, and  it was  determined                                                                    
that a patient  needed medication. He guessed  that it would                                                                    
be  filled   by  the   collaborating  dentist.   He  assumed                                                                    
hygienists did not have prescription  power. He asked if the                                                                    
advanced hygienist would refer the patient to a dentist.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:10:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Spohnholz replied that  if a dental hygienist                                                                    
identified something out of the  scope of their training and                                                                    
practice,  they  were  required   to  refer  patients  to  a                                                                    
dentist.  She  pointed  to  page  3,  line  29,  Section  2,                                                                    
Subsection  (d)  in the  bill,  requiring  a referral  to  a                                                                    
dentist for  anything outside the scope  of their licensure.                                                                    
She voiced  that an advanced  practitioner would  uphold the                                                                    
statute.  Representative Wool  concluded  that the  advanced                                                                    
permit  holder  could  not prescribe  drugs.  Representative                                                                    
Spohnholz affirmed the statement.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  111  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  announced  that amendments  were  due  by                                                                    
Tuesday  at   noon.  She  reviewed  the   schedule  for  the                                                                    
following meeting.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:13:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:13 a.m.                                                                                         

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HB 111